0:01 hey how's it going welcome back to finally uh car music trunk details part 0:07 eight uh today is Monday September 4th happy Labor Day to everyone 0:12 um just wanted to provide a quick update I took August effectively off I have uh 0:18 one of my cars my E55 as you can see the front bumpers off uh somebody hit me so 0:24 I'm dealing with that we also have you can see out there um a horse trailer that I had to get uh 0:30 cleaned up and ready to sell we're downsizing our horse setup and we picked up 0:36 um a newer RAM for my wife so I've been super busy with all that stuff and unfortunately I have not basically 0:42 touched the BMW in about a month so I'm kind of chomping at the bit and I'm ready to get back into it 0:48 um also wanted to provide a quick update on the zebra wood I know if you've been following along I was really stressed 0:54 about the Twisted wood and in the issues we were having with the zebra wood uh happy to report my father has the wood 1:00 and making really good progress he was able to um rough cut he's working on it slowly 1:07 just taking his time but he was able to rough cut the four pieces needed again to basically you know the kind of the 1:12 four quadrants that'll be the floor um he was able to plane the me built a 1:19 jig setup and he was able to plane them to 1:24 um 11 16. so just a sixteenth of an inch shy of three quarters uh which will be 1:29 fine and everything's coming out really good the um he's right now he's working 1:34 on kind of lining up the book match pattern uh to be able to get the Final Cut uh using a flush trim bit and then 1:42 he'll work on uh starting to drill the holes so making really good progress there and I think uh we're over the the 1:48 scare of whether or not that was going to be an expensive uh bonfire um 1:54 also uh at this point as you know if you've been following along I still have a ton of little details to do on the 2:01 items in the floor there's a the milbers need a bunch of work I've got to 2:07 um you know braise up these brackets there's just a whole bunch of loose loose things to do 2:14 um and one of the biggest things is the gold plating and if anybody that's watching this knows anybody who can do 2:21 24 karat gold plating dipping I'd rather do dipping than brush on that can 2:27 accommodate something you know this big these are 18 by five by seven inches 2:34 um I'm willing to pay the price but I am having a heck of a time um I was only able to find a check with 2:41 about 30 companies and I found two companies that are willing to do it and are able to do it and I got quotes 2:47 between five and six thousand dollars which is more than I want to spend um I'm hoping to be able to get away uh 2:54 for quite a bit less I think they were just giving me a go away kind of a price I don't think that's even with uh I 3:02 should need a little less than an ounce of gold I think to do everything and it's two grand an ounce 3:08 um so you know maybe whatever it shouldn't be 3:13 five to six thousand in my opinion so um all right so the purpose of this 3:18 video is to I'm going to start working on what's going to happen up here if you 3:23 recall here's kind of my inspiration picture this is the way Earl had the car originally that's not out of focus and 3:32 you can see the uh the items hanging off the rear deck so it's basically two Sony Changers here 3:39 and here and in the Middle where the X1 and P1 uh mean Hideaway packs many 3:45 people didn't know this uh up above the Sony equipment was a pair of zapco 3:51 amplifiers so um and they were smaller amps than what 3:57 I have in the car now these are the amplifiers out of the car when I purchased the car these are two z600s 4:04 and when Earl had the old other setup like I just showed you in the picture he 4:10 had a z300 and then a Z50 that he was using for rear fill just because I asked 4:16 I told him he needed rear fill so at no point did the car have these two side by 4:24 side on the rear deck underneath the rear deck they were hanging together if you recall one below the other that's 4:30 the way the car was when I bought it and it had the Z50 changer next to it so what I want to do again is I'm going 4:36 back to this original look but I want to use the two z600s also as 4:44 far as we could tell Earl and I were talking about it the other day um from his memory he recalls that he 4:51 did the z600s at the same time he did the 15s in the floor the um the Nautilus 4:57 15s so the z600s are much more power and if you know they were never on the 13s 5:04 so the 13s should sound a lot better than they did because it's a little bit more than double the power and a little 5:11 bit better amp I think you know more power is better obviously so so at this point what I'm doing is taking the amps 5:17 apart kind of assessing what's going on I'm going to replace all the Caps I am as you guys know by now a little crazy 5:23 so even those Allen heads that are holding in the rails for the transistors there's 5:30 a little rescue there's an odd one there that's scary a little bit um I'm going to replace all of those 5:35 bolts with stainless uh just again to do everything as as good as I can 5:41 um these amplifiers were originally white they were painted like this silvery gray 5:47 um and it's gotten a little bit beat up so I'm going to be stripping and 5:52 repainting the amplifiers they're gonna they're gonna be the same color as the Sony components the well I should say 6:00 the C1 Changers because the P1 and X1 are going to be gold-plated so 6:06 um so that is where I am at and also if you recall down underneath here you can see I had those foam pieces that I used 6:13 to kind of mock up the trunk one of the biggest things or a couple of the the big things with regard to the components 6:19 hanging off the trunk is the spacing so the this is where the 6:25 rcas go right here for the milberts and because of the vertical height you know 6:30 all the components it's a really tight fit I've got about a quarter of an inch of play so I had to 6:38 be really really careful and I may end up having to modify the brackets as you can see this is the 6:46 bracket that holds the zapcos which elevates it and then it's got this cooling fan at the bottom and an intake 6:52 here um sneak peek here I think I'm going to utilize a liquid cooling system for a PC 7:00 I'm looking into those devices they run at 12 volt DC uh looking into it not 7:06 sure I'm going to do that 100 percent or I may do a different kind of a cooling setup something kind of unique but I 7:12 need to be able to mount the amplifiers as tightly to the rear deck as possible which will give me more space for again 7:19 the rcas I also when the amplifiers are on the rear deck 7:25 I've got to come up with a way to mount the Sony components so I may and for 7:31 somebody use zapco purists this might hurt you a little bit I may Mill into the amplifier in either thread the 7:38 amplifier or as you can see there's enough room in there I might be able to get an insert into there 7:44 um we'll see that's effectively what I'm kind of planing right now is is the hardest part 7:50 of this type of a build is is trying to figure out all the logistics the planning the execution isn't that you 7:56 know typically that difficult it's kind of engineering and figuring everything out so that you don't pigeonhole yourself and in this case again there's 8:03 there's kind of a lot going on the same was true again if you recall if you've been watching along all the time and planning 8:10 and you know cardboard mock-ups and all that stuff to build the floor but I think the floor came out really really 8:16 good you know and again you can see it's just sitting in there now but like the degree of precision you know everything 8:24 lines up uh all the stuff my father and I are doing with the zebra what it should be really really good so stay 8:30 tuned we'll have some more going on here hopefully soon thanks for watching talk to you a little bit 8:36 all right at this point I am still very very much uh kind of planning everything out and I've got some cool ideas that 8:44 I've come up with uh so far so these are obviously the heat sinks for this the z600 zapcos fully 8:53 disassembled these I'm going to strip these repaint them uh I've got a guy 9:00 um I'll hold off on mentioning his name until he makes he's okay with it 9:05 um there's somebody on Facebook who I posted about whether or not there are links some amplifier companies will 9:13 um you know take one of their chassis and cut it up into pieces and sell links where you can do like a spacer and also 9:20 do like an end cap to hide the wiring so I don't think they make them for this series of zapco amps but someone had the 9:27 same idea that I did and they took one of these chassis and they cut it into four equal pieces and he hasn't done 9:34 anything with it in 28 years so um hopefully he comes through and he's willing to sell those and then I'm going 9:41 to do a spacer I'm gonna I've kind of measured everything out I'll do a two inch spacer here and then two inch caps 9:47 on the end the amplifiers are 18 inches so uh 9:52 what'll that give me 20 42 inches overall length so it'll kind of look like one giant amp and again the zapco 10:00 it's going to be hanging off the rear deck there and I'm going to paint it the 10:05 same color as the C ones the c1s are going to stay this silver these C ones I 10:11 have I have like six of these Changers these are not in great shape you can see 10:16 the big scratch here I have a pair that are pristine if you remember brand new in the box never used I did have to 10:24 replace the DC to DC Converters on them but they are like brand new so when 10:29 everything is done and I'm ready to do the final assembly I will use those Changers until then I'm going to use these as a mock-up I'm also going to see 10:36 if I can gut the Changers so that I'm just dealing with the shells which would be a lot easier to move around and kind 10:41 of figure out my mounting I do have Sony had these mounting plates that you 10:47 could use to basically you know do these brackets I won't use these brackets so I'm going to come up with my own design 10:53 there and I have a P1 and the next one that I'll be using for mock-up I'm same 10:58 thing I'm going to see if I should be able to cut these and just use the chassis these two are are spares and if 11:05 you recall these items are going to be gold plated sanded down um and then gold plated so I'm not too 11:12 terribly worried about these and I have for each of these so I have several 11:17 spares to to work with so um that's it for this point I'm going to 11:22 continue working on kind of mapping everything out and there's a lot of planning going into this and I'll have 11:27 an update here shortly all right here I am kind of harvesting 11:33 the guts out of the C1 Changers um obviously that's where the majority 11:38 of the weight is um so I need to pull these absorption devices off that's 11:45 effectively what holds it because the whole thing the whole chassis basically floats as you can see there 11:50 and then this is aluminum plastic so it's it's quite light so by the time I 11:55 get it all apart it'll be a lot more manageable and easier to work with 12:01 changer number one uh gut extraction successful 12:08 nothing in there as you can see nice and light now it's just the chassis it's everything I need to be able to get 12:15 everything mocked up and laid out it's much much lighter and there are the pieces Parts 12:21 um if anyone is interested if you do have a C1 and it's giving you issues 99 12:26 of the time separate of skipping and all of that if it doesn't have any output or it doesn't 12:33 um load or do anything like that this is probably the culprit um very difficult to get these uh but 12:40 reach out to me and I might be able to help you out this is located this circuit board is located on this back 12:46 panel it's really easy to take off there's six screws and that comes out and then there's a 12:52 few different things that plug into it doing the converter also is a little bit 12:58 tricky but again if someone's interested in doing that I could help you walk you through it I've done a bunch of them 13:04 also if you are taking apart one of these Changers there are these screws on 13:09 the side Sony does a really good job of giving you arrows to indicate disassembly screws that basically is an 13:15 indication that if you want to take it apart pull these screws out if you notice there are these holes that do not 13:21 have that Arrow that's because these go into here that's where those screws 13:27 came from if you try to remove these screws you have to do it with the cover off and you need to kind of hold on to 13:34 this because otherwise this will just Spin and you'll end up ripping this which these I'm going to see if I can 13:39 try to Source new ones um these are I think they're like oil filled or whatever I don't know what 13:45 their life expectancy is but unlikely it's 30 or more years so we'll see what 13:51 happens there I did test my two good changers the final changes I'll be using and kind 13:57 of you know hit him when they were playing and everything I played him for 20 hours probably for the pair 14:04 um and no skipping whatsoever so yep that's what the inside of a C1 looks like don't make them like they used to 14:10 pretty solid copper isolation there really well built 14:15 um kind of slow and clunky as far as a mechanism goes but amazing song quality so all right so that's one changer done 14:22 I'll get the other changer completely that's nice and light and then I'll move on to the P1 and X1 brains and hopefully 14:29 I get lucky bugs all over the place and I can do the same thing and have some nice light components to be able to mock 14:35 up with uh real quick here's something cool like 14:40 well not cool but I wanted to show people in case they're like what is that um 14:45 these Changers these two Changers don't work great and I think it's the dc-dc 14:51 converter but what also goes is especially these two capacitors right here on these C ones it's kind of not 14:59 focusing see where it sort of looks like uh flux almost from from solder that's 15:05 actually the guts of the capacitor the liquid of the capacitor you can see it leaking out there and if it gets really 15:11 bad it'll kind of mess up the traces on the board I've had to replace these I got a I don't know 20 of these Caps or 15:18 whatever just to have them handy but this is really common on the c1s as well 15:23 um so if you have an issue and it's not the DC to DC converter it very well could be these caps I've seen one of my 15:30 Changers it was like liquid all inside of here so that I don't even know how much how it held that much liquid but it did 15:36 so um again another cool thing to be aware of if you're playing with these C1 changers 15:43 all right up next is I'm going to I've had these apart before and I'm pretty sure I can do what I want to do is 15:49 attempt to basically take the guts out of the POI next one so let's give it a shot 15:55 all right here's the X1 or P1 with the cover off um again kind of old school technology 16:01 but uh for me it's the best way they don't make them like they used to I'll continue with the dismantling of this 16:08 piece another successful extraction there 16:14 again is the uh this is a I think it's a control board 16:19 um and then the main board for the P1 once again DC to DC converter Sony XCS stuff 16:26 these are always the culprit as you can see this one's fine on the p1s if 16:32 anyone's interested these are relatively rare to go bad on the brain but on the display they almost always go bad and 16:39 that um when that goes bad on the display you don't have a display it's dark you'll still have output but the 16:46 display doesn't work um so it's again a common culprit there um a new DCd DC converter and the thing 16:52 is back in business um once again this is you know I don't know I saved probably half the weight a 16:58 pound or two but again it's going to be a lot easier to do all the fit up that I'm about to do onto the X1 17:07 okay so got everything um extracted I'll call it 17:13 um so I got my zapco chassis once again I'm going to be making my own bottoms 17:18 you'll see why for the amplifiers I'm going to modify some things and uh do some things with that so I will be 17:26 making my own bottoms and then as I mentioned a moment ago I'm hoping to get spacer links to be able to kind of hide 17:34 the wiring and also the the center area I got my X1 and p1s all hollowed out my 17:41 two c one Changers hollowed out as well and save some weight made it easier to kind of lay it all out so those are 17:47 really the four item or six items that are going to be hanging off the rear deck and I've got to build some 17:54 pretty I'm going to over engineer as I normally do awesome pretty elaborate 17:59 brackets and aluminum panels and all kinds of stuff to hold it um for anyone that's interested in 18:05 seeing what all that stuff looks like naked uh here you go so again those are the two C Wine Changers internals 18:12 this is the P1 with the second board I'm going to be 18:18 recapping all of this um which should be good fun because I 18:25 don't trust them if anybody knows if you want to put it in the comments below I've been looking for a meter to be able 18:31 to test capacitors in circuit and I've read a lot of varying things about that 18:37 doesn't work or whatever and you're just better off to pull the caps and then measure them but as you can see on the 18:43 X1 I got a lot of caps here so there are there's a ton of electrolytics on here 18:49 and these things are you know 25 almost 30 years old so I don't trust any one of them there's nothing that's leaking or 18:56 bulging but again I I'm sure their values are off which is going to skew things and 19:03 and really potentially make a big mess but once again check out like eight 19:08 different um dedicated discrete um fur Brown These are brown 20-bit Dax 19:15 in here instead of just having one dock for the entire unit this is kind of an old school topography but I tend to like 19:23 this kind of stuff um and you can see running in the back side of the boards 19:30 there's a lot going on obviously nowadays you can fit this in a much smaller compact kind of a circuit 19:38 um but I prefer the old school stuff I prefer the sound to me it's way more analog and natural sounding than any of 19:45 the new stuff we Earl and I listen to some of the new stuff and uh just didn't do it so all right that's going to be it 19:52 for this part we'll continue on I'll continue on on this video we'll have some more content but uh that gets me to 20:00 into the next part where I'm going to be moving to the next stage 20:06 okay I'm cruising along in the design phase one of the things I'm trying to do going forward is uh with these videos is 20:13 to show you stuff and not to talk too much about what I plan on doing but 20:18 um I just want to cover some brief things here if you notice these are the right angle 20:24 straight wire RCA jacks I put the sockets into the milberts and that is 20:31 this is basically the highest point on the milbers so that's going to be my issue to fit everything into the 20:37 trunk and it is a very tight fit here's basically what I'm working on I took this just this piece of plywood 20:45 kind of laid out where I'm going to be putting the amps so a couple things I'm doing here number one I wanted the gains 20:54 which are on this end to be both of them to be at the far end right so to do that 21:00 I basically had to take one amp and turn it around but in doing so the it's tough 21:06 to see right now but basically the 21:12 um grooves or the fins if you will in the amplifier you can see it better there here are asymmetrical it's 21:19 different right but this center pin right here this there's basically a bolt 21:24 that goes in here two screws and they come through and hold this device here okay 21:32 so I determined that this was in the center I basically and as you can see both 21:38 these boards are just sitting in here so I flipped one chassis around but I put 21:44 the board back in the opposite way and in doing so if you notice on this one let's remove 21:51 this Plexi you can see where the screws are aligned you know where they're going to line up properly for the rails for 21:57 the transistors but on this amp that's not the case because again I effectively 22:02 spun the board around so I've got a machinist who will go through and 22:08 redrill and tap the amplifier so that I could fit the rails correctly this is 22:14 all just to make sure that this which you won't see will line up on the two 22:20 amplifiers so if I slide both of these back you can see this is a deeper Groove 22:25 and I'll explain something on this in just a minute all right the reason I'm doing this is that while these fins look 22:33 like they're symmetrical on both sides of the amp I don't want to take anything for granted so I'm the bottom line is 22:39 I'm going to have the fins or the chassis line up and hopefully the fins align us as good as possible 22:45 if you notice here and this is a two inch Gap and 22:50 um there is a gentleman that's been super helpful his name is James McDonald shout out to James uh he was nice enough 22:57 to get in contact with me after I posted on a car audio Facebook page and he 23:03 basically zapko doesn't make spacers for these amps I don't think they ever did 23:08 um but he had the same idea that I did where I wanted to do like spacers so he took an old z600 one of these amps and 23:16 sliced up the the um the chassis and he is shipping those 23:22 out to me I purchased those from them thanks again James I really appreciate it and I'm gonna have those milled 23:27 they're a little bit bigger than I need so I'm going to go two inches here I'll go two inches on the end with a cap on 23:34 the end of it and then two inches on the end here so again if you notice my gains will be at opposite ends those will be 23:40 somewhat accessible in the trunk likely without any tools I don't really 23:46 normally I leave the gains all the way down and I'll be running a lot of voltage 23:52 signal voltage probably at least 10 volts RMS into the amplifier so I 23:57 normally leave the gains all the way down but I may want to crack them just to bias the input so 24:02 um all right so that is basically that part the next thing I'm working on is 24:08 the placement of the P1 and X1 so imagine this is the rear deck right 24:14 there's a piece of aluminum that's going to hang from the rear deck the big plate of aluminum that I'm going to be working 24:19 on so imagine that is this piece the amps are then mounted here now I needed to figure out a way to mount the 24:25 amplifiers to the through the rear deck and I couldn't really 24:31 I want it effectively a stud right that would go into here so what I'm going to be using 24:38 is pulling out 24:44 these are made for kayak rails when I found these they're stainless steel they're quarter 20. so what I'm going to 24:50 do again if you notice there is a kind of an indent right here that's deeper it's an eighth of an inch 24:56 deeper these are going to go here and I'm going to drill the holes I'll set up a fence on my drill press but 25:02 they're going to go like this and they're going to go through the chassis of the amp and if 25:08 you notice these will line up nicely right here that's going to effectively give me a stud and then that will go 25:13 through the rear deck so more on that later on kind of how I'm going to do those um again I'm I spent the last 24 hours 25:22 that I've been working on a car working on kind of the mock-up the design and all of that I spent a lot of time doing 25:28 this stuff um so that the execution is easier and I don't pigeonhole myself and end up with 25:34 a big problem despite all my planning as complex as this is it's really tough not to run 25:40 into snags or things that I don't you know consider So to that point the next thing I'm doing here is I took thin 25:47 Plexiglas much like you saw I did on the zebra wood and I cut those 25:52 um the length of the amplifier and basically these sit in where the amp covers would be I'm going to make new covers for the amplifiers okay 26:00 this represents this little circle here represents as you can see here 26:07 where the factory fan was and then it was kind of exhaust ports there so what I'm doing is I'm trying to figure out 26:16 um can I put the fans here still or not and the other big thing I need to figure out is if we look at the P1 the next one 26:24 these are the next things I got to work on again those are gutted so I just have these empty chassis 26:30 I need to figure out how I'm going to get this mounted on here and my objective is that you do not see any 26:36 hardware and then there will be a C1 hanging off this side and another C1 hanging off here again I've got most of 26:42 this figured out um and I'll show you that as I go but I just wanted to give you kind of an overview of what's going on here so far 26:48 all right be with you shortly all right I mentioned earlier uh kind of 26:54 touched on possible PC style Cooling and going believe it or not a little crazy 26:59 so here's what I'm doing um this again I'm I really am apprehensive to show you all the 27:06 planning stuff I'd rather just show you progress but there is so much planning that's going into this part 27:12 um everything is kind of integral right um so a lot of design and I'm still I'm 27:18 over 30 hours at this point so far this month and I haven't picked up a tool other than measuring tapes so here's 27:23 what I'm doing currently the way the mill Birds work these are the barrier strips there is one for each speaker 27:30 group and then there's the power the way that the wires work is they go into the 27:35 amplifier like this this again is the back of where the wiring is going to come up you can see my holes right 27:42 um so I'd have to you know the wiring for the amplifier comes up here and then it's designed where this would be where 27:49 you would connect your wires so what I'm going to do is fill these holes the wiring for the amplifier will go from 27:56 this it'll be done underneath I'll extend the bolts and I'll have um 28:02 almost like a stud that goes through and there'll be a ring terminal and that'll attach the wires internally into the 28:08 amplifier so none of these wires will be visible these holes will be filled the only wiring you'll see are the power or 28:15 the you know positive and negative coming into the barrier strip but I'll use the same barrier strips so basically my whole point there is 28:22 that all these holes go away and just the wiring comes in here notice kind of 28:27 this piece this will explain this in a sec the wiring is going to come up like that right kind of sit up here 28:35 um so what I'm going to do is I'm using cooling uh plate blocks that are for 28:42 liquid cooling and I've decided currently we'll see if this changes to use a 40 millimeter by 300 millimeter 28:51 on each of the four amplifiers the two milverts and the two zap coasts so the 28:56 movers will be set up like this each block will be here the way I'll set it up is the tubing it's got an inlet and 29:02 an outlet I think it uses whatever 5 8 inch or half inch or whatever clear tubing 29:08 you're going to have an input and an output here and then an input and output here kind of where these lines are again 29:13 these holes go away so the tubing will come in here and there'll be a t connector for the tubing right here 29:20 tubing comes in here and here and then it'll drop down or I'll have my dad drill a couple of more holes and the 29:27 tubing goes down inside of the zebra wood so um aesthetically I think that'll be 29:33 pretty cool I have just have to double check and make sure nothing is going to get in the way with the height of these 29:38 plates relative to for example the speaker wire so got to double check all that stuff but that's kind of the 29:45 thought on this and then I'll show you the design and the zap goes in just a moment 29:50 all right in terms of uh cooling for the zapcos they're the boards out curious 29:56 what those look like I've had these kind of in and out working on a lot of the logistics so 30:01 here's what I'm thinking uh the chassis ironically the chassis for the milbers and the zapcos are both exactly 18 30:08 inches long so all four amps are the same length I'm thinking about doing the cooling 30:15 block or plate whatever you want to call it here in the center of the amp 30:20 um so basically real briefly what's going to happen here is the there's going to be a plate that hangs off the 30:26 rear deck much like there was before I think it's going to be eighth inch aluminum it'll cover the entire rear deck plate these will be mounted 30:34 oriented like this so basically as they normally would be mounted they're going to be they'll be studs I'll show you 30:40 those in a little bit I showed you those kayak bolts those studs I'll probably do two at each end here and then they'll 30:47 come through the rear package Shelf with some Fender washers and then that's what's going to hold the amplifiers in 30:52 place so in terms of the cooling plate uh again this is what I'm thinking these 30:58 are 40 millimeter just over inch and a half by 300 millimeters long if you notice there is a little tiny raised 31:05 bump right here right here and right here um which is not helpful so I am going to 31:12 have this entire surface machined so it's completely flat I'm stripping the paint off as well they're gonna the fin 31:19 area from here around and the bottoms will be painted um I'm not too worried about this 31:24 because you won't see it where this is I want this to be obviously bare metal to be too allow for the best possible heat 31:31 transfer so this will be a machined flat aluminum surface and then this will be 31:37 obviously aluminum as well for the cooling blocks and then I'll use a thermal paste between the two what I'm 31:44 also going to do kind of a cool idea I think is I gotta I had to figure out okay how am I going to mount these things 31:50 um they are just under a half an inch thick so this is like a little less than a quarter to give you an idea of the 31:57 thickness right and again there's a little Inlet and an outlet and then water just goes through it's just a 32:03 water jacket it's all it is basically so um I need to figure out how to mount them and I want it to be as clean as 32:09 possible so they're relatively cheap I think they're about 15 or 20 bucks a piece I'm going to buy so I'll need four 32:16 to do the job I'll buy five and I'm going to take one to the guy 32:22 locally that does Machining uh Joe from the hood if you were closer by I would 32:28 shoot this stuff over to you but obviously I'm trying to get things done here but I'll have The Machinist 32:34 butterfly one of these so basically slice it down the middle I'll open it up 32:40 and then I wanna confirm my suspicions as it relates to where the tubing is and all of that from 32:47 there I can see how much meat I have and where I have the meat then what I'll do is I'll drill this will be the case on 32:53 all four amplifiers I'll drill through the amplifier countersink underneath 32:59 here just a real probably six thirty second bolts or screws and then I'll tap and thread the cooling block so long as 33:07 I don't hit where the water is coming through and that'll allow me to basically have it secured to all four 33:14 amplifiers very very securely I'll do you know probably eight or ten screws 33:20 um and then also more importantly than well um the thermal transfer is what I'm all 33:26 after here right it's just about getting the heat away from the amplifier so um the tighter those are the more secure 33:32 with the thermal paste the better so that's currently my plan we'll see how it goes if I slice open one of those 33:38 blocks and there's absolutely no room that I've got to kind of Putt and come up with a new plan but again that's what 33:43 the last 30 hours over the last couple of weeks has been just this brainstorming and coming up with ideas 33:50 uh looking at this this is kind of the representative of uh just use this piece 33:56 of plow to kind of lay things out more on this in a bit um this is going to be the gap between 34:01 the amplifiers uh so real quick actually let me show you these here's one sample uh shout out to James 34:09 McDonald who was nice enough to reply to my post on old school car audio when I 34:16 asked about hey does anybody know if zapco made spacers for this series of amplifier as far as I know they did not 34:23 but James had a similar kind of a setup and similar idea to what I wanted to do 34:28 he took a z600 one of these amps and had it cut into four pieces so there's the 34:35 rest of the chunks okay what I'm going to do is again this is kind of a good 34:40 side view I'll bring this to my machinist and I'll have him cut four pieces that are two inches excuse me 34:47 three pieces that are two inches wide also going to have him machine this face 34:53 on all all pieces such that when I join them together they're as tight as 34:59 possible I want this to be as unrecognizable as possible that they are joined together when you look from the 35:06 back deck kind of hanging down it'll be one amplifier you know obviously you'll see these seams but as close as I can 35:12 get to being one amplifier the overall length will be 42 inches so it's going to look pretty cool my thought with the 35:19 zapcos is I want them obviously I need to show them and all of that but I want them to be kind of hidden away and 35:25 inconspicuous I think the Highlight is going to be obviously on the milbers right um no disrespective zapcos or zapco fans 35:32 out there but um all right so that's going to be the cooling and then here again I'll have 35:39 you're going to have an input and an output here I'll bring those together I'll run a t connector and then I'll 35:45 have that I'm not sure exactly where it's going to go from here this again is 35:51 um going to be hanging up the rear package shelf I will also more than likely make it so that there will be a 35:58 large cover in the rear package shelf kind of like Grill cloth or whatever that I can remove and you'll see these I 36:06 think that'll look pretty cool and uh more more ideas to come on that so that I just wanted to review the concept 36:12 there beyond the plates in terms of the cooling there are radiators which have 36:18 fans attached to them and there's a pump um my biggest thing right now I'm still 36:24 brainstorming on is where to put the radiators because I'm likely going to do at a minimum for 120 millimeter pumps or 36:31 excuse me fans so four fans which is um that's going to be huge 36:39 um I've got to come up with a home for that and I'm brainstorming some ideas there anybody has anything feel free to 36:44 enter into the comments below I'm looking for something crazy creative and uh very effective so all right let's 36:50 continue on and we'll go to the next step all right couple of other details I want 36:55 to show this is the old piece of aluminum uh that was hanging from the rear deck it was actually a really good 37:01 idea um and it's eighth inch aluminum and this 37:07 is um kind of what held up a lot of the stuff the way that I'm going to be doing 37:12 it is I'm going to go directly through this into the rear deck for just about everything so I'm not going to rely on 37:19 this itself holds you know I'm going to kind of make a sandwich of the two metals 37:24 um so I wanted to show this this is um just again the old piece that I'm 37:30 using for a mock-up I've got a new sheet of aluminum that I'll cut because I'm going to go a little bit wider as well 37:36 but I just wanted to show that I also wanted to show 37:41 this this is again mocked up that's basically 37:46 uh what the zapcos and Sony components will look like so they're basic placement 37:52 so as you can see I've got the gap between the two zapcos there'll be a 37:58 spacer there there'll be a link here and here two inch links so again we got a 38:03 big nice big giant zapco um the way that our old did it is the P1 38:09 and X1 these legs he cut off I'm going to do the same thing and then Mount those together this is again just 38:15 sitting in there now um there is enough room just enough 38:20 be able to open the doors for the c1s and in a moment you'll see how I'm going 38:27 to do the bottoms and of the zapco so I'm going to make new bottoms and then 38:32 the Changers will mount to the bottoms as well the P1 and x one 38:38 and then the bottoms I'm going to make some new brackets inside of the amplifiers and then the bottoms will um 38:46 have Hardware that goes through the bottoms of the amplifiers into the brackets that I'll build so I'll show 38:52 kind of the plan there in just a moment one other quick thing regarding cooling 38:57 this is the power inverter this unit here the Power Max I've shown that before I'm going to be spending a 39:04 lot of time listening to the car kind of sitting in the garage so this thing's going to be running a lot comes with a 39:10 really cheap junky fan this black one here this is I don't know how you pronounce this noctua so best quality 39:17 fan I could find really nice ball bearings and it's designed to be very very quiet much better quality than what 39:25 this is so again I'm not going to liquid cool this although I could but who knows 39:30 maybe I will but for now I'm going to plan on just upgrading the fan 39:37 all right I am going to go ahead and close out this particular video um I just want to show there were three 39:43 humps in the rear deck these were humps with reinforcement um like threaded inserts for I believe 39:50 they were for car seat mounts um which I don't plan on using uh and 39:56 also you're gonna see some things in the rear deck I want to try to get away from explaining everything I'm going to do uh 40:03 and show you know more actual footage of what I'm doing um I did have to do a little bit of 40:09 dirty cutting there um you'll see why as well as far as uh the plate going against the rear seat 40:15 but one thing I do want to show I did get a new piece of eighth inch aluminum 40:21 um stuff is not cheap it was about 125 dollars and that will be the new rack that hangs 40:28 from the rear deck one little sneak peek I do want to show I mentioned a little bit ago about some cooling I'm going to 40:36 be working on um I'm going to be building some kind of a DIY Loop rather 40:43 complex I guess once again over engineered but I'm playing around with the notion of these blocks one for each 40:50 amplifier one for each milber and for the zapcos uh and then for anybody who's ever played with these These Are A 40:56 Thermal electric cooler very cool device I haven't really played with it yet but the whole concept is very interesting 41:01 and I might be if that goes to plan I'll be doing something pretty cool for the 41:07 cooling but um that again will wrap up this video I certainly appreciate the watching and go 41:14 ahead and like And subscribe if you are so inclined uh in the next couple of videos will be really cool there's some 41:20 really good stuff coming some modifications heavy modifications to the chassis this app goes and you'll be 41:27 seeing that shortly but thanks again and talk to you soon
